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McJongJing

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Re: MECHA
« Reply #315 on: August 20, 2015, 06:08:23 PM »

I dunno
Look at small robots like Asimo.
Even those are incredibly wobbly.

And now you've gotta make it big enough to fit a human.
And it costs too much for what is essentially a novelty. Not sure kickstarter will be able to fund something in the billions.

Currently we have those multi legged logging mechs, but those aren't humanoid.
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McJongJing

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Re: MECHA
« Reply #316 on: August 20, 2015, 08:02:04 PM »

Holy shit, the Transformers movie was fucking dark.
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Ming

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Re: MECHA
« Reply #317 on: August 21, 2015, 07:19:22 AM »

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I dunno
Look at small robots like Asimo.
Even those are incredibly wobbly.

Landmates are essentially a fancy exoskeleton, taking movement data from the users physical actions in-suit. (You move your arm, the suit will move the same, for example)





All you'd need is minor computed adjustments to movement to take the extra weight here and there of the suit relative to the pilot to keep it balanced and properly synced while moving, as well as a few other bits like the high range of motion of the suit vs the cramped pilots.

The problems with our present day autonomous robots do don't apply to them. But rather it's a mechanical engineering issue of making something capable of moving its limbs at the same speed with the same finesse as a human while still remaining light weight and of compact size.

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McJongJing

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Re: MECHA
« Reply #318 on: August 21, 2015, 08:21:56 AM »

Do we have any engineers here?
I don't.know shit about robots.
Someone come and crush Mings hopes and dreams for me.
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Ming

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Re: MECHA
« Reply #319 on: August 21, 2015, 09:00:42 AM »

My dreams are made of metal, oil and silicon

Come at me bro
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McJongJing

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Re: MECHA
« Reply #320 on: August 21, 2015, 09:07:57 AM »

I'd actually rather your dreams come true this time.
But regardless, with a mechas size and weight, you can't simply translate human movements to mecha movements.
Shit's just too top heavy to not fall over.
Your exoskeleton might work, but we aren't going to get gundams anytime soon.
What's that art from? It reminds me of Bubble Gum Crisis.

Early Gundam designs were fucking weird.
Can you imagine if they went with THIS?
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Kami_sama

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Re: MECHA
« Reply #321 on: August 21, 2015, 09:15:39 AM »

IMO robots (or robotic suits) like in Ming's previous post are a possibility. In fact there's already exoskeletons and human-sized humanoid robots being developed, but currently it's only research.

Really big mecha are unlikely tho, because their feet would need to be too big if we don't find a light and resistant enough material. Also things like helicopters or, if we want to be futuristic, some kind of antigrav ship, would probably be more efficient.
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McJongJing

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Re: MECHA
« Reply #322 on: August 21, 2015, 09:21:22 AM »

There's also logistics to consider. You gotta rework the roads to accommodate mecha. Something as simple as power lines would get in the way.
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Ming

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Re: MECHA
« Reply #323 on: August 21, 2015, 10:27:27 AM »

IMO robots (or robotic suits) like in Ming's previous post are a possibility. In fact there's already exoskeletons and human-sized humanoid robots being developed, but currently it's only research.

Really big mecha are unlikely tho, because their feet would need to be too big if we don't find a light and resistant enough material. Also things like helicopters or, if we want to be futuristic, some kind of antigrav ship, would probably be more efficient.

Yeah big mecha are probably never going to happen. I'm perfectly okay with that though, I prefer the size of the landmate suits in the pictures I posted.

On that note

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What's that art from? It reminds me of Bubble Gum Crisis.

It's from Appleseed, a manga/anime/media franchise by Masamune Shirow. Also known as, that guy who made Ghost in the Shell and started drawing all of that oily skin late 80s and 90s looking hentai.
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ScumbagSoldier

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Re: MECHA
« Reply #324 on: August 21, 2015, 10:40:49 AM »

Pretty sure the only thing keeping mecha down is the technology behind stuff like BigDog needing to support more weight, as well as power issues.

The problem is, the actual tactical merit of a mecha is dubious.
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Ming

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Re: MECHA
« Reply #325 on: August 21, 2015, 11:32:59 AM »

We don't have the technology and materials to make something properly big that could behave like a mecha should be able to even if we would create the software and a power supply with enough juice.

Like seriously, just think about a mecha walking. It's like a building dropping into the ground over and over. No, it's worse, because the force is concentrated into the legs.

I can't imagine what kind of ungodly suspension would handle it. Not to mention a run or sprint. Joints will crumble or snap.

It's hopeless, for now.

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McJongJing

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Re: MECHA
« Reply #326 on: August 21, 2015, 07:13:37 PM »

At least we got robot bumper cars  :sad:
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McJongJing

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Re: MECHA
« Reply #327 on: August 21, 2015, 11:36:19 PM »

New PV for Iron Blooded Orphans!

It looks really gay.
But I like the tanks and Spanish guitars.
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Ming

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Re: MECHA
« Reply #328 on: August 22, 2015, 05:40:39 AM »

It's going to be amazing I can feel it

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McJongJing

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Re: MECHA
« Reply #329 on: August 22, 2015, 06:15:29 AM »

Nah.
It's going to be shit.
Until the next Gundam comes out, then we'll all call it amazing.
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