.~*the island*~. => ~♥ アニメ王女の島♥~ => Topic started by: Real Human Bean on July 21, 2015, 03:29:22 AM
Title: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Real Human Bean on July 21, 2015, 03:29:22 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/UAhKAMS.png) id buy this cuban a taco or whatever is they eat not going to vote for him tho lol ew?
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Post by: McJongJing on July 21, 2015, 05:42:55 AM
uhhhhhhh we got the commie thread for that Fucking commie
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Post by: Kami_sama on July 21, 2015, 06:52:01 AM
>having the people elect the president directly >having a president
Lmao @ you
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Post by: McJongJing on July 21, 2015, 07:24:33 AM
Can't we just live under an autocratic Prussian?
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Post by: Ming on July 21, 2015, 07:40:16 AM
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Post by: 正義のヒイロ on July 22, 2015, 04:27:32 PM
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ollistar on July 22, 2015, 05:19:49 PM
Raising the minimum wage was never a good idea.
Having a minimum wage was never a good idea.
Get the government out of my business!
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on July 22, 2015, 05:51:33 PM
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Post by: McJongJing on July 22, 2015, 06:08:15 PM
Princesi with too many down votes are deposed of.
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Post by: Ming on July 22, 2015, 06:19:35 PM
upvote is cancer
never happening
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on July 22, 2015, 06:22:44 PM
Reddit wouldn't be so bad if they were just cosmetic. It's this skibnerbox karma shit that ruins it.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on July 22, 2015, 06:37:54 PM
Even just a cosmetic counter showing how many people like a post is bad in my opinion. People become more inclined to just like than comment.
Also if you make a post that you actually put some effort into, and it gets no or hardly any likes, you'll feel discouraged to bother doing it again. And people will try to make posts that will get them the most likes too.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on July 22, 2015, 06:48:15 PM
I never got that. It's just a cosmetic counter and doesn't add to any sort ofscore. Why would you farm it?
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on July 22, 2015, 07:09:08 PM
Didn't you take pride in being the one with the most posts on Chuu for a time?
:laugh:
Also getting likes is a form of affirmation. People enjoy it.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on July 22, 2015, 07:24:02 PM
Yeah. I'M COMING FOR YOU MINGYBOY
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on July 22, 2015, 07:49:47 PM
If it means making lots of new threads, go ahead!
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: murasa on July 22, 2015, 08:43:18 PM
Reminder that Trudeau will ~literally~ legalize weed
You say that like it's a good thing.
Sure it is! Aren't you a libertard?
While I am for people's liberties, legalizing weed would be kind of shitty, honestly.
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Post by: ScumbagSoldier on July 24, 2015, 11:55:26 AM
Really, you might as well. It's less dangerous than alcolol or tobacco, it'll keep it out of the hands of minors (or at least make it less accessible) and keep people from getting hurt by altered product.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on July 24, 2015, 12:24:51 PM
Yeah. As shitty as I think some weed addicts are, it's really no worse than tobacco or alcohol.
Most of the negative side effects that are actually bad, and associated with weed, were in-fact completely fabricated in studies and tests done in the 20th century, which were intended to give the results needed to ban it. Like the study where they 'proved' that marijuana killed brain cells?
They had monkeys wear gasmasks and pumped in huge doses of weed smoke into them, without adding extra oxygen. The loss of braincells were entirely because of asphyxiation of the monkies suffocating from lack of air.
That sort of shit is the only reason it got banned to start with, and we only stick to it now because it makes some people money, and other people think it's morally wrong like the weird fanatics they are.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ollistar on July 24, 2015, 03:16:11 PM
I'm also strictly referring to our current political setup. If we went full libertarian and got rid of bull shit like wellfare, then by all means, legalize weed.
We just already have too many people leeching off tax payer money. If you want to smoke weed then get a fucking job. As long as you contribute to society or at least don't take from it without doing so, then I don't give a fuck what you put in your body. Drink fucking bleach if you want, I'm just not gonna pay for you to do it.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on July 24, 2015, 06:03:27 PM
What? By that logic we should ban alcohol because welfare queens might like it. Shit you might as well ban anime. I don't want to pay neets to watch anime.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ollistar on July 24, 2015, 06:11:48 PM
What? By that logic we should ban alcohol because welfare queens might like it. Shit you might as well ban anime. I don't want to pay neets to watch anime.
I never said ban alcohol, I said ban welfare.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on July 24, 2015, 06:33:40 PM
Reminder that Trudeau will ~literally~ legalize weed
You say that like it's a good thing.
Sure it is! Aren't you a libertard?
While I am for people's liberties, legalizing weed would be kind of shitty, honestly.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: ScumbagSoldier on July 24, 2015, 06:47:19 PM
The commies have showed their true colors.
Good to know me and Worthless are the only ones who believe in freedom.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Kami_sama on July 24, 2015, 08:46:00 PM
Most of the people on welfare aren't leech though.
Instead of talking about the /JP/ guys who wants to live on welfare, let's talk real example. A family of 6, the father dies. If you don't give them welfare what are they gonna do? Drop school and sell drugs on the street? Or go work for wallmark who absolutely can't afford to pay decent wage?
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on July 24, 2015, 08:53:19 PM
I expect them to enlist in the army. They will then be turned into cyborg soldiers and fight to earn their keep. This is adherent to the rules of nature. The fittest will survive and all is well.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on July 24, 2015, 08:55:28 PM
And what if the kids are all disabled
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Post by: Kami_sama on July 24, 2015, 09:10:55 PM
They die, 1900s like. Seriously just look at the industrial revolution: it's the proof that ultra-liberalism fail.
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Post by: McJongJing on July 24, 2015, 09:18:53 PM
I'd say it was a success ;) (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/23/article-1164123-031BC6DB000005DC-549_468x286.jpg)
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Post by: Kami_sama on July 24, 2015, 09:24:45 PM
It was like monarchy, all over again, but with more complicated words. :yay:
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Post by: 正義のヒイロ on July 24, 2015, 09:34:01 PM
It was like monarchy, all over again, but with more complicated words. :yay:
Nah, it's not as bad as a fucking monarchy. Under a monarchy those workers would have been owned by their lords. At least there's a small degree of legal accountability under liberalism.
It allowed me to be a NEET for almost 3 years :kyaa:
I've no problem paying taxes to support other NEETs either
PARASITE
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on July 25, 2015, 06:11:13 PM
No I don't you didn't give me any money :damn:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on July 25, 2015, 06:14:32 PM
It allowed me to be a NEET for almost 3 years :kyaa:
I've no problem paying taxes to support other NEETs either
Go die.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on July 25, 2015, 06:24:00 PM
i thought about blandaaing upp but then i saw this video it really kind of changed my mind i mean muhammad ali was a famous boxer and i like boxing so i should listen to him right lol?
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ollistar on July 25, 2015, 06:29:05 PM
Muhammad is a sand nigger name. I wouldn't trust him.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 07, 2015, 02:00:52 PM
put this nigger in office already
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ollistar on August 07, 2015, 04:05:09 PM
Literally Fox news hysteria I don't really like Shillary either but saying she's destroying the country is such a dramatic overstatement. This guy wants more offense spending while crying about muh debt. If you didn't have billion dollar contracts with drone manufacturers maybe you wouldn't be the most hated country with lots of "enemies"
I've seen more videos of this guy talking and while it's cool that he's a doctor and shit he literally just spouts the same GOP propaganda as all the other candidates in that party. Talking about driving wedges between people while he alienates the majority of Americans with his opinions on gay marriage is just pandering to old farts who vote for his party.
Reminder that both parties won't actually change shit because rich and powerful people benefit from shilling both sides Reminder that people vote for contrarian parties when the economic situation around them is shit even though it's influenced by forces that government can't (and doesn't want to) change Reminder that voting in American politics produces very little results because policies depend on moving money in closed door deals
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 13, 2015, 12:28:48 AM
No, Fox doesn't talk about Marxism. Fox is just as messed up and fiscally left as MSNBC or CNN. The only difference being some inane social differences.
How does discussing the right for government sanctioned sodomy drive wedges between people? Sure, it's alienating. But American is about freedom, the majority of European immigrants to the United States emigrated for religious freedom. The government should not interfere with religious organizations.
reminder that plenty of sane young people think homos are gross, and rightfully so reminder that the only platform a president should get elected on are his plans to reduce the federal government reminder that obamacare is the worse thing since slavery reminder that taxation is theft
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 13, 2015, 12:46:28 AM
reminder that the only platform a president should get elected on are his plans to reduce the federal government reminder that obamacare is the worse thing since slavery reminder that taxation is theft
This is accurate
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Post by: McJongJing on August 13, 2015, 05:00:15 AM
I definitely agree with the first part at least. Remember when Obama was elected? I had no clue what his policies were. All I knew was that he's black because it's all anyone talked about. People treat elections like a celebrity show.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: RQ on August 13, 2015, 07:41:53 AM
How does discussing the right for government sanctioned sodomy drive wedges between people? Sure, it's alienating.
Because the majority of Americans agree that marriage is between 2 people that love each other now between "a man and a woman". Speaking out against gay marriage is exactly the kind of thing that would drive voters away from this guy, it's literally just being a bait lord that gets a bunch of people upset at him for shit that mostly irrelevant
The government should not interfere with religious organizations.
It was my understanding that the new gay marriage laws still allow religious organizations to say no to couples who want to get married in their church. Who is being oppressed here? The only thing that changed was pointless state bureaucracy
reminder that the only platform a president should get elected on are his plans to reduce the federal government
The only thing a president should get elected on are their actual policies. It shouldn't matter if they're black or a woman or disabled or anything arbitrary about their personal lives.
reminder that obamacare is the worse thing since slavery reminder that taxation is theft
Consensual agreements are not theft
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Kami_sama on August 13, 2015, 07:55:35 AM
Without taxation most of us wouldn't probably be literate enough to post on this website and we would probably be either dead due to some sickness or working in the mine for our jew overlord.
Doesn't matter, most Americans think homos should be able to get married Reminder that lower levels of disgust aversion are correlated with higher IQ
"As I watched the mother eating her unborn child alive, I felt nearly no disgust or aversion. Knowing that I was a highly intelligent human being filled me with joy and I offered her a ride in my car to thank her for all she made me learn about myself."
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 13, 2015, 02:58:13 PM
Because the majority of Americans agree that marriage is between 2 people that love each other now between "a man and a woman"
No, the supreme court ruled that the state should be able sanction gay marriages. more taxes for them, whoopty f*gging do. I never went to a ballot. You also assume people against gay marriage somehow hate assmasters, which isn't logical at all. Fags need to realize that just because its tyranny under the name of "love and buttsex", doesn't mean its not tyranny.
It was my understanding that the new gay marriage laws still allow religious organizations to say no to couples who want to get married in their church.
no, and they can get sued for refusing. just like how a religious establishment can get sued for not baking a dicksucker cake. and just like how we are going to see straight men marry for lower income benefits. marriage is even more of a sham than it was, thats an accomplishment.
LMAO i sure as H*CK didnt agree to obamacare. my brother, who was forced to leave my fathers plan because he was "too old", and is now paying 400 dollars more than he used to for healthcare, didnt agree to obamacare, not even socialist retards agreed for this system. It is disgusting and it chains you to mediocrity, artificial bailouts, and general servitude. i do not consent. but i have to pay. or else ill go to jail. that doesnt sound consensual to me
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Post by: Ming on August 13, 2015, 03:25:22 PM
what do you people find fun about arguing politics
seriously
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Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 13, 2015, 03:32:29 PM
RQ likes getting manhandled by superior debaters, thats all
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ollistar on August 13, 2015, 04:34:54 PM
No, the supreme court ruled that the state should be able sanction gay marriages. more taxes for them, whoopty f*gging do. I never went to a ballot. You also assume people against gay marriage somehow hate assmasters, which isn't logical at all. Fags need to realize that just because its tyranny under the name of "love and buttsex", doesn't mean its not tyranny.
The "majority agrees" thing is based on polls not voter turnouts... I don't know why you mentioned you never going to a ballot. State sanctioned gay marriage means that bureaucrats who work for the state have to check off some "marriage" box on a piece of paper instead of the "civil union" box or what ever the fuck they did before, religious institutions can still refuse to marry 2 gay people so they can still exercise their religious freedom
no, and they can get sued for refusing. just like how a religious establishment can get sued for not baking a dicksucker cake. and just like how we are going to see straight men marry for lower income benefits. marriage is even more of a sham than it was, thats an accomplishment.
The cake thing was for a store that bakes cakes? How is that a religious institution? Also it's cool if you think marriage is shit but that doesn't mean everyone is gonna think that
what do you people find fun about arguing politics
seriously
It's just like thinking practice, it's fun
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: landshark on August 13, 2015, 06:33:31 PM
heyyyy whats going on in here
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Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 13, 2015, 07:07:34 PM
The cake thing was for a store that bakes cakes? How is that a religious institution?
because they make cakes for holy matrimony. or because they say they are. companies should have the right to refuse anyone service, people aren't entitled to services.
my anecdotal evidence happens all throughout the country and was about obamacare specifically. obamacare is worse than taxation, because it binds people into dependence on the government and takes away the freedom of choice.
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power."
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Post by: McJongJing on August 13, 2015, 07:20:11 PM
I actually agree with Hiro on the cake. The government should not be allowed to force individuals to do something because not doing it would be "offensive" That's an obvious and deliberate infringement on the right of the individual, no matter what way you spin it. And shit, why couldn't the couple just go find another baker? Why did they have to act like fucking kids and throw a tantrum.
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Post by: landshark on August 13, 2015, 07:33:11 PM
just buy two action figures and put them on top of the cake
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Post by: RQ on August 13, 2015, 07:35:15 PM
A national vote on homo unions would be a better consensus than whatever internet polls you're talking about.
These are polls carried about by huge research agencies they're pretty accurate http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/03/09/support-for-gay-marriage-hits-all-time-high-wsjnbc-news-poll/ http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/gay-marriage-voters-poll-115171.html http://www.pewforum.org/2015/07/29/graphics-slideshow-changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/
They all cite a ~60/40% split in favor of same sex marriage
And yes yes we all don't like fascism and the government shouldn't impose that, I was specifically talking about religious freedom
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 13, 2015, 08:04:42 PM
the only source i found on those articles was http://images.politico.com/global/2015/02/13/hrc_marriage_equality_public_memo_215-4.html and its 1000 people tell me how 1000 people represent 330 million? also, what areas did they pool the people from? also "human rights campaign" "greenberg", heh
obamacare is facism
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ollistar on August 13, 2015, 09:13:34 PM
what do you people find fun about arguing politics
seriously
rising up to the challenge of our rivals
hi!
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: RQ on August 13, 2015, 10:05:27 PM
Murika is hopeless tbh
3rd world status already and headed further south
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 13, 2015, 10:36:27 PM
he lost so he resorts to "muh 3rd world". let me tell you something ilya, the term first world is defined by America and America's allies. We are the center of the world.
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Post by: RQ on August 13, 2015, 11:45:51 PM
You won against a bunch of strawmans buddy congrats
Also I'm aware about the original definitions, I specifically said the US is 3rd world because of how shit you guys manage compared to most countries that are actually counted as "1st world" Almost every western country has public healthcare since it's such a no-brainer but only in murika is it unironically called "fascism" :dance:
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Post by: a worthless person on August 13, 2015, 11:51:32 PM
what do you people find fun about arguing politics
seriously
rising up to the challenge of our rivals
hi!
I didn't just make it out of the blue, the post right before mine was accidentally an eye of the tiger line
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 14, 2015, 12:44:43 AM
You won against a bunch of strawmans buddy congrats
Also I'm aware about the original definitions, I specifically said the US is 3rd world because of how shit you guys manage compared to most countries that are actually counted as "1st world" Almost every western country has public healthcare since it's such a no-brainer but only in murika is it unironically called "fascism" :dance:
backpeddling argumentum ad populum insults
i believe ive won :dance:
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Post by: landshark on August 14, 2015, 03:24:58 AM
who has the best government in the world guys
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ollistar on August 14, 2015, 05:37:55 AM
I pointed out that the new marriage laws don't infringe upon practice of religious freedom by organizations such as the church
You said that it does do that because a cake shop, which is not a religious institution, was forced to bake a cake I pointed out that this is a strawman since it does not address my original point, it is a claim about a non-religious institution that you "refuted" This is not backpedaling, it's just you defeating an argument which you came up with yourself
Also fyi you arguing that US government is bad is just further proof to me saying that your country is shit, you're basically insulting it too
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on August 16, 2015, 06:23:36 PM
The issue is the people, not the institution itself. People running the cake shop were forced to act against their own religious beliefs by the faggy law. It doesn't fucking matter if it's a church or not, the government infringed on an individual freedom here. Your law is gay and shit, modify it.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: RQ on August 16, 2015, 07:02:36 PM
my point is that wasn't my initial claim
also that's not my country we don't even have meme false flag candidates like trump
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on August 16, 2015, 07:26:55 PM
Claim still stands and the law's still gay.
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Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 16, 2015, 10:16:55 PM
Why couldn't they just get another bAker in the Area to do it?
Because then they wouldn't be making a scene.
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Post by: landshark on August 19, 2015, 01:11:41 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/m68hwSo.png)
"This machine allows anyone to work for minimum wage for as long as they like. Turning the crank on the side releases one penny every 4.97 seconds, for a total of $7.25 per hour. This corresponds to minimum wage for a person in New York. This piece is brilliant on multiple levels, particularly as social commentary. Without a doubt, most people who started operating the machine for fun would quickly grow disheartened and stop when realizing just how little they’re earning by turning this mindless crank. A person would then conceivably realize that this is what nearly two million people in the United States do every day…at much harder jobs than turning a crank. This turns the piece into a simple, yet effective argument for raising the minimum wage."
http://imgur.com/gallery/m68hwSo
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Post by: Kami_sama on August 19, 2015, 01:30:56 PM
^
It really felt that way when I was working as a security guard.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on August 19, 2015, 01:43:55 PM
I work for approximately 10 dollars per hour.
It sounds low, but that's about 33% more than these unlucky ones.
:rain:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Kami_sama on August 19, 2015, 01:57:25 PM
Here there's no minimum wage but you usually won't make under 20 CHF per hour.
I really feel true pity for people working at Walmart. :plz:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on August 19, 2015, 02:01:19 PM
Holy crap man
Let me move to Switzerland
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Kami_sama on August 19, 2015, 02:05:45 PM
You can move in my house whenever you want Mingu ! :kyaa:
I made 24 an hour just to stare at sick dude sleeping, sometime this makes me feel guilty when I see how much I would've been paid for this in other country. :nyoron:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: ScumbagSoldier on August 19, 2015, 03:18:19 PM
Considering I couldn't even find a minimum wage job in the past few months, and will probably be doing surveys at $6 per hour for money in the coming months, I'd gladly stand there and turn that fucking crank.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on August 19, 2015, 03:58:02 PM
That's a fucking expensive art piece.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 19, 2015, 04:06:16 PM
"This machine allows anyone to work for minimum wage for as long as they like. Turning the crank on the side releases one penny every 4.97 seconds, for a total of $7.25 per hour. This corresponds to minimum wage for a person in New York. This piece is brilliant on multiple levels, particularly as social commentary. Without a doubt, most people who started operating the machine for fun would quickly grow disheartened and stop when realizing just how little they’re earning by turning this mindless crank. A person would then conceivably realize that this is what nearly two million people in the United States do every day…at much harder jobs than turning a crank. This turns the piece into a simple, yet effective argument for raising the minimum wage."
http://imgur.com/gallery/m68hwSo
this makes no sense. what good or service does cranking a machine like this provide? why would you turn down easy money, if you actually need it? why do you think an unskilled and uneducated worker with no experience has more worth than people who make more than minimum wage? are you under the impression that works has to be fun and easy? nothing that builds you as a person is easy. work is work. people have to work. go to china and dig holes to "stimulate the economy" you commie
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: landshark on August 19, 2015, 04:11:39 PM
i just thought it was a cool piece dude
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 19, 2015, 04:17:36 PM
yea man rad radical just like radical leftism commie
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on August 19, 2015, 04:48:18 PM
this makes no sense. what good or service does cranking a machine like this provide? why would you turn down easy money, if you actually need it? why do you think an unskilled and uneducated worker with no experience has more worth than people who make more than minimum wage? are you under the impression that works has to be fun and easy? nothing that builds you as a person is easy. work is work. people have to work. go to china and dig holes to "stimulate the economy" you commie
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: landshark on August 19, 2015, 05:22:29 PM
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: ScumbagSoldier on August 19, 2015, 06:20:30 PM
The Ming is highly compactible, and can be folded to under half his original size.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 19, 2015, 07:28:27 PM
stop being gigantic faggots and debate me
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on August 19, 2015, 07:42:02 PM
Okay. At least a small amount of taxes are necessary. There are certain goods and services that are difficult for businesses to monetize since it's difficult to prohibit people from using them. Like national defense. You can't exclude people from being defended. Or something simple like footpathes. You gonna pay a fee every time you want to use a footpath?
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Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 19, 2015, 08:52:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/50jbwho.gif)
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Post by: landshark on August 20, 2015, 04:30:47 AM
mjj what have you got to say to this
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Post by: Royalkitten on August 20, 2015, 05:23:44 AM
give me the cliffnotes i aint reading all this shit.
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Post by: McJongJing on August 20, 2015, 06:06:11 AM
Hiro's the biggest faggot. That's why he hates fags. Massive tsundere for cock.
He does come across as what my friends and describe as "defensively straight"
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Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 28, 2015, 02:20:56 AM
did i say you could talk about me? please dont talk about me, its really creepy.
im not gay btw burn all gays
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Post by: McJongJing on August 28, 2015, 02:24:04 AM
So gay <3
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Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 28, 2015, 02:31:01 AM
im about to file a restraining order on your loose ass
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Post by: McJongJing on August 28, 2015, 03:01:16 AM
Kinky :dance:
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Post by: ScumbagSoldier on August 28, 2015, 04:25:04 AM
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Post by: Gropy on August 28, 2015, 04:27:51 AM
I hope all you americans vote for Bernie Sanders :laugh:
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Post by: Royalkitten on August 28, 2015, 05:22:11 AM
this is a trump princess board
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Post by: Gropy on August 28, 2015, 05:54:49 AM
I hear by declare this board a Bernie Sanders board, and there's nothing you can do about it
(http://i.imgur.com/ME0zJ8m.png)
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Post by: McJongJing on August 28, 2015, 06:01:14 AM
I don't follow U.S politics because fuck it I can't vote please explain Sanders and Trumps policies with no retarded memes
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Post by: Kami_sama on August 28, 2015, 08:54:30 AM
Trump is easy. Do you see was far right is ? Can you imagine the political agenda of /pol/ if it was a politician, minus the Jew bashing ? This is more or less Trump.
Seriously I watched one of his talk it was glorious.
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Post by: McJongJing on August 28, 2015, 09:09:21 AM
Elect him. Comedy fucking gold.
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Post by: Ming on August 28, 2015, 11:33:52 AM
trump is a joke and because America sucks ass he'll win instead of Bernie
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Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 28, 2015, 12:16:31 PM
trump isnt far right, hes more of a centrist. unless you internalize nationalism and and impoliteness with the right wing. but he is probably one of the most right leaning candidates
trump is a joke and because America sucks ass he'll win instead of Bernie
bernie would be FDR levels of disaster. at least FDR had a better reason than people getting BAs for $50k a pop
see this is what youd call a clash of cultures. the caliphate you live in pays no mind to forfeiting 60% of your work to your masters, letting in criminals, and generally having no impact on the world besides shitty chairs. its no wonder a swede would want slavery, its all he knows.
to a man that knows the taste of freedom, the thought of being subjects instead of citizens is abhorrent. america is a post-enlightenment country founded on the philosophy of liberty, and its one of a kind. our culture is incompatible with yours, so why does your opinion matter?
its funny, our freedom and nationalism is mocked by the same europeans who for some reason follow our elections.
you see euro countries try to emulate america with emerald eyes, and you barely realise.
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Post by: Gropy on August 28, 2015, 12:31:43 PM
Actually it doesn't matter how much people pay in taxes, it's all about the purchasing power and minimum wage, someone might pay 40% in taxes, but having a minimum wage at 20$ still gives them more after taxes then any other american on minimum wage.
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Post by: Ming on August 28, 2015, 12:33:24 PM
trump isnt far right, hes more of a centrist. unless you internalize nationalism and and impoliteness with the right wing. but he is probably one of the most right leaning candidates
trump is a joke and because America sucks ass he'll win instead of Bernie
bernie would be FDR levels of disaster. at least FDR had a better reason than people getting BAs for $50k a pop
see this is what youd call a clash of cultures. the caliphate you live in pays no mind to forfeiting 60% of your work to your masters, letting in criminals, and generally having no impact on the world besides shitty chairs. its no wonder a swede would want slavery, its all he knows.
to a man that knows the taste of freedom, the thought of being subjects instead of citizens is abhorrent. america is a post-enlightenment country founded on the philosophy of liberty, and its one of a kind. our culture is incompatible with yours, so why does your opinion matter?
its funny, our freedom and nationalism is mocked by the same europeans who for some reason follow our elections.
you see euro countries try to emulate america with emerald eyes, and you barely realise.
(http://i.imgur.com/Qso6E8S.jpg)
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Post by: ScumbagSoldier on August 28, 2015, 12:43:11 PM
trump is a joke and because America sucks ass he'll win instead of Bernie
Trump, at least, will curb immigration, Bernie will literally turn America into Sweden. I'd say that after the previous president who was inexplicably elected twice demonstrated the impotence and tyranny of the far left, maybe not Trump, but a more right leaning candidate is more likely.
trump isnt far right, hes more of a centrist. unless you internalize nationalism and and impoliteness with the right wing. but he is probably one of the most right leaning candidates
trump is a joke and because America sucks ass he'll win instead of Bernie
bernie would be FDR levels of disaster. at least FDR had a better reason than people getting BAs for $50k a pop
see this is what youd call a clash of cultures. the caliphate you live in pays no mind to forfeiting 60% of your work to your masters, letting in criminals, and generally having no impact on the world besides shitty chairs. its no wonder a swede would want slavery, its all he knows.
to a man that knows the taste of freedom, the thought of being subjects instead of citizens is abhorrent. america is a post-enlightenment country founded on the philosophy of liberty, and its one of a kind. our culture is incompatible with yours, so why does your opinion matter?
its funny, our freedom and nationalism is mocked by the same europeans who for some reason follow our elections.
you see euro countries try to emulate america with emerald eyes, and you barely realise.
I unironically agree with this post.
Anyways: http://www.isidewith.com/
Do it.
I got Rand Paul.
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Post by: Gropy on August 28, 2015, 01:01:41 PM
95% with Bernie Sanders 58% with the manlet Rand Paul And 27% with trump
:omg:
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Post by: Ollistar on August 28, 2015, 04:27:39 PM
Bernie sanders is literally a socialist he can get the fuck out.
Trump is the only viable candidate since our lord and savior ron paul isn't running.
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Post by: Pleinair on August 29, 2015, 03:19:12 AM
I haven't really bothered with politics. The only reason I sorta support Bernie is I'm just curious if someone could win an elections without corporate involvement. I took that quiz thing and what'd ya know? 86% Bernie Sanders
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Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 29, 2015, 06:28:30 AM
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Post by: McJongJing on August 29, 2015, 06:34:13 AM
What pisses me off is people who get pissy at Americans for not wanting to take in Mexicans. It's their own sovereign country, they can do whatever they want you faggot liberals. Why should they give themselves over to Mexicans? What right does a Mexican have to America?
why are people with brown skin so fucking disgusting? Blacks can at least be cool, but browns are gross.
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Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 29, 2015, 09:42:56 AM
Actually it doesn't matter how much people pay in taxes, it's all about the purchasing power and minimum wage, someone might pay 40% in taxes, but having a minimum wage at 20$ still gives them more after taxes then any other american on minimum wage.
what? why stop at 20 dollars? how about 40 dollars? 100 dollars? by your logic, it doesnt matter at all what people get paid as long as its more than what they do now. theres a lot more that goes into the economy other than drowing people in more currency. stop speaking so matter-of-factly about economics as if youve ever read about it let alone know what your talking about.
I haven't really bothered with politics. The only reason I sorta support Bernie is I'm just curious if someone could win an elections without corporate involvement. I took that quiz thing and what'd ya know? 86% Bernie Sanders
whats the difference between corporate support and bank support? honestly, is corporate a scary word or something? bernie has the banks. and raising taxes as much as bernie wants only supports one group, and the group within its pockets. ill give you a hint: its the government. even if you think the government isnt intrusive and want to violate your freedoms, you have to agree that they are generally lazy and sloppy at the jobs they do. voting for taking more of peoples money and putting it into government run programs will beget laziness and greed.
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Post by: McJongJing on August 29, 2015, 09:55:36 AM
Yeah. He lived in the same suburb as me and would talk to me when he caught me walking my dog. He's studying business or something at uni. Been a while, can't remember what. Played golf, wore polo shirts. Really nice guy. 10/10, mah nigga.
Maoris are subhuman though
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Post by: Kami_sama on August 29, 2015, 10:52:44 AM
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Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 29, 2015, 11:37:00 AM
Sanders was born in Brooklyn, New York to Eli Sanders and Dorothy Glassberg.[19][20] His father was a Jewish immigrant from Poland whose family was killed in the Holocaust,[9][19][21]
he is also literally funded by the banks same banks that get bailed out by the government with the american tax dollar instead of the poor lib logic
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Post by: ScumbagSoldier on August 29, 2015, 11:48:40 AM
It's more like the banks have Bernie, then.
Which makes him the same as most candidates, just more overt.
A disturbing number of princessii are willing to vote for a literal and figurative kike.
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Post by: Kami_sama on August 29, 2015, 11:58:19 AM
This thread gave me a better understanding on how American view politics.
This country is doomed.
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Post by: animal on August 29, 2015, 12:36:58 PM
do you think we spend too much on the military? or do you think we'd all be better off dead and we should be using biological weapons to kill everyone on the planet
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Post by: Ollistar on August 29, 2015, 12:38:38 PM
This thread gave me a better understanding on how American view politics.
This country is doomed.
By "this country" you mean your communist hellhole, yes?
Damn straight it is.
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Post by: animal on August 29, 2015, 12:52:22 PM
(https://jii.moe/NyNRgAqh.jpg)
thoughts? would u vote for him?
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Post by: pomo-chan on August 29, 2015, 12:55:39 PM
I simply cannot support someone who endorses the reptilian agenda. That's why I'm voting for Rand and his fourth amendment.
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Post by: ScumbagSoldier on August 29, 2015, 12:56:27 PM
Seriously though, Kami. I'm curious as to what you mean.
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Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 29, 2015, 01:07:04 PM
do you think we spend too much on the military? or do you think we'd all be better off dead and we should be using biological weapons to kill everyone on the planet
option 3 genocide the arabs then cut down on military after that evil is gone from the world
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Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 29, 2015, 01:08:08 PM
do you think we spend too much on the military? or do you think we'd all be better off dead and we should be using biological weapons to kill everyone on the planet
option 3 genocide the arabs then cut down on military after that evil is gone from the world
That's what I said.
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Post by: Ming on August 29, 2015, 01:31:05 PM
>>>/pol/ (http://boards.4chan.org/pol/)
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Post by: Ollistar on August 29, 2015, 01:45:43 PM
This thread gave me a better understanding on how American view politics.
This country is doomed.
This
When you actual look at American news and election polls it's obvious how much political issues that country has. There are too many people with veto power which means no policies can get through since there's always someone who can stop it from happening. The entire nation is divided between 2 primary groups who have no overlap and the media keeps inciting conflict out of everyone
I feel bad for Americans tbh :poh:
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Post by: pomo-chan on August 29, 2015, 09:00:35 PM
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Post by: Kami_sama on August 29, 2015, 09:14:21 PM
I think that there is a huge social cleavage in America and that social mobility is extremely poor. I also think that the majority of American people have a way of thinking that prevent this social cleavage to be reduced.
So currently America look like the England in the 1900 or some kind of monarchy when we look at the structure of the society. The problem with such society is the the low-level tier have a very shitty life and, despite all you can say, have a real hard time even having a slight chance to live somewhat decently.
And it doesn't seems to bother people : proof is the fact that it doesn't seem to bother people that much that you can pay people literally below what they need to live. This, in my opinion, shows that the society isn't united. Of course you can try to unite it against terrorism, China, Russia or whatever, kinda like Europe did in 1800-1900 with French hating on the German and similar shit all over the continent but it's not what we should strive for, from an ethical standpoint. Or so I think.
You can have all your teeth root off and no one will help you if you can't pay and will even consider it to be your fault, but your country is one of the richest of the world. What's the point of being at the top of the technological and economical ladder if it means that people live life as shitty as 100 years ago?
Also, due to said structure of society, a lot of people don't really have the education nor the will to understand argument like why taxes aren't thief, why the government doesn't always do such a sloppy work and why the prices of goods doesn't scale 1:1 with the level of the minimum wage. This makes it even harder to change thing.
The problem with said society is that she can't keep united forever during hard time. When saw it when the French killed their king, when the Russian overthrew their Tsar and with all the little revolution that happened in Europe. To be brief I think that, if life becomes harder, the ground people of America will, at some point, just have no interest left in recognizing any sort of utility and authority in their government. This may not happen during our lifetime but sooner or later America will have to change IMO.
As a side track on American politics :
Seriously, most of the argument I read in that thread are similar to this one :
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see this is what youd call a clash of cultures. the caliphate you live in pays no mind to forfeiting 60% of your work to your masters, letting in criminals, and generally having no impact on the world besides shitty chairs. its no wonder a swede would want slavery, its all he knows.
to a man that knows the taste of freedom, the thought of being subjects instead of citizens is abhorrent. america is a post-enlightenment country founded on the philosophy of liberty, and its one of a kind. our culture is incompatible with yours, so why does your opinion matter?
Which exaggerate the level of multiculturalism and taxes of Sweden. Then go on a rant and is purely emotional. I pass on the low-level insults because it's Hiro and it's the internet. The problem is that it seems to be the actual level of public debate and the like, based on the few political speech I saw. The problem with those speech is that it's impossible to talk about the issue in a way that could really lead to a consensus or whatever because both speaker only want to make the audience feel like it should vote for them.
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Post by: RQ on August 29, 2015, 09:30:27 PM
I think the right considers the left to be all about "muh feels" but things like genophilia and patriotism are also just feels
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Post by: Gropy on August 29, 2015, 09:39:46 PM
tl:dr?
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Post by: Kami_sama on August 29, 2015, 09:47:42 PM
^
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To be brief I think that, if life becomes harder, the ground people of America will, at some point, just have no interest left in recognizing any sort of utility and authority in their government.
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Post by: Gropy on August 29, 2015, 09:57:22 PM
What will happen if they dont recognize it? Nothing, they'll just use the salami tactic
Look at what happened with the NSA stuff, everyone got pissed about the goverment spying on you, but now; in 2015, no one really gives a shit. Imagine if they slowly bit by bit over a few generation made your life harder (which they already have done) nothing would happen.
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Post by: Kami_sama on August 29, 2015, 10:13:19 PM
The thing is, after a point, it becomes just better to either leave the country or to riot.
And this point is easily reachable because their not in a "do it and die" situation like in this video. Of course this point is far from being reached but I really think something can happen if the difference in life quality between life in the USA and life in another first-world country become bigger.
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Post by: Gropy on August 29, 2015, 10:20:48 PM
No the point of a do it or die stuation is far more reachable then riot, the professor ask if he would nuke himself and his allies to stop the russians, to which the morally right prime minister answer "How can we defend ourself by commiting suicide" as in he would rather live a shitty life under the russians then die.
>The thing is, after a point, it becomes just better to either leave the country or to riot. We could ask the poor class in China that, why haven't they just moved to a country with better standards? We see what happens when people try to move in a mass to other countries in europe right now.
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Post by: Ollistar on August 29, 2015, 11:00:53 PM
Actually as long as you're not on drugs you can have a decent life. Most of the real bad cases in America are the person's fault.
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Post by: ScumbagSoldier on August 29, 2015, 11:15:30 PM
So currently America look like the England in the 1900 or some kind of monarchy when we look at the structure of the society. The problem with such society is the the low-level tier have a very shitty life and, despite all you can say, have a real hard time even having a slight chance to live somewhat decently.
While you're not wrong, what you're describing is universal. I'd say it's even worse in socialist countries, where if you start moving up, you clearly have more than you need and should behave accordingly.
And it doesn't seems to bother people : proof is the fact that it doesn't seem to bother people that much that you can pay people literally below what they need to live. This, in my opinion, shows that the society isn't united. Of course you can try to unite it against terrorism, China, Russia or whatever, kinda like Europe did in 1800-1900 with French hating on the German and similar shit all over the continent but it's not what we should strive for, from an ethical standpoint. Or so I think.
Again, this issue is practically universal, and it comes from unpredictable change (economics, etc) coming faster than deliberate ones, like those made by the government, as well as likely pressure from businesses, etc. I definitely wouldn't say that people don't care. That said, common goals are one thing, but people aren't obliged to be "united" in anything. They're individuals before they're citizens, and people are generally united in smaller groups over many different things. Personally, I take something like that as reassuring, as it means people are shaping a more unique identity for themselves instead of being defined by the immediate and obvious, as in previous generations.
Also, due to said structure of society, a lot of people don't really have the education nor the will to understand argument like why taxes aren't thief, why the government doesn't always do such a sloppy work and why the prices of goods doesn't scale 1:1 with the level of the minimum wage. This makes it even harder to change thing.
On the contrary. I think the reason we're starting to see so much more anti-goverment, etc rhetoric is because people are more educated than ever about the world around them, politics, economics, and growth, which gives them a greater understanding of not only why things are the way they are, but that they should be better. Granted, I do feel that many people are willing victims or ignorant, but that generally stems from more left wing types, I find.
The problem with said society is that she can't keep united forever during hard time. When saw it when the French killed their king, when the Russian overthrew their Tsar and with all the little revolution that happened in Europe. To be brief I think that, if life becomes harder, the ground people of America will, at some point, just have no interest left in recognizing any sort of utility and authority in their government. This may not happen during our lifetime but sooner or later America will have to change IMO.
Of course. They have a culture of lies, a corrupt government, a dysfunctional economic structure, are in a state of perpetual growth despite the fact that they can't accommodate it fast enough, and are exploited, and are forced into obligation then worked to death. If it doesn't come in our lifetime (it might.) Things are definitely going to get dicey before it comes, and I'd definitely say that almost the entire world is due for a similar measure.
Seriously, most of the argument I read in that thread are similar to this one :
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see this is what youd call a clash of cultures. the caliphate you live in pays no mind to forfeiting 60% of your work to your masters, letting in criminals, and generally having no impact on the world besides shitty chairs. its no wonder a swede would want slavery, its all he knows.
to a man that knows the taste of freedom, the thought of being subjects instead of citizens is abhorrent. america is a post-enlightenment country founded on the philosophy of liberty, and its one of a kind. our culture is incompatible with yours, so why does your opinion matter?
Which exaggerate the level of multiculturalism and taxes of Sweden. Then go on a rant and is purely emotional. I pass on the low-level insults because it's Hiro and it's the internet. The problem is that it seems to be the actual level of public debate and the like, based on the few political speech I saw. The problem with those speech is that it's impossible to talk about the issue in a way that could really lead to a consensus or whatever because both speaker only want to make the audience feel like it should vote for them.
While I don't really care about all that beef with Hiro, what you describe towards the end is symptomatic of the times we live in, where nothing seems to be working, so we'll cling to anything that "might" work. Again, this is universal.
As an aside, is the tax rate in socialist countries really 60%? Because that's fucking disgusting.
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Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 29, 2015, 11:51:47 PM
So currently America look like the England in the 1900 or some kind of monarchy when we look at the structure of the society. The problem with such society is the the low-level tier have a very shitty life and, despite all you can say, have a real hard time even having a slight chance to live somewhat decently.
And it doesn't seems to bother people : proof is the fact that it doesn't seem to bother people that much that you can pay people literally below what they need to live.
You can have all your teeth root off and no one will help you if you can't pay and will even consider it to be your fault, but your country is one of the richest of the world. What's the point of being at the top of the technological and economical ladder if it means that people live life as shitty as 100 years ago?
You're joking. Even the unemployed have smartphones, their own dwelling, and enough food to go fat. Minimum wage jobs have always been either part time jobs or a stepping stone. If you don't like where you work, learn a trade, actively find other positions, etc. And yes, not having insurance is your fault. It's your fault for not taking responsibility for yourself. It might be sad, it might suck, you might even get a donation from a well meaning organization - but it doesn't mean you didn't have the hindsight to strive to make your situation better.
This is where culture comes in, like it or not america has a different culture than any other country and you can't deny that. We don't have common ancestry to keep us together, so our culture is very important when it comes to keeping the country running. All countries, and thus their political agendas, have deep roots in culture. You can debate this until you're blue in the face but to say a culture doesn't is unequivocally false. Americans generally value hard work, responsible individual(individual in the sense of you and your family) decisions, and a mindset that makes you grow as a person.
Also, due to said structure of society, a lot of people don't really have the education nor the will to understand argument like why taxes aren't thief, why the government doesn't always do such a sloppy work and why the prices of goods doesn't scale 1:1 with the level of the minimum wage. This makes it even harder to change thing.
Now I know you're joking. You seriously just said societal structure doesn't have education praise the government enough. Well, in the 14 years I was in the american education system that is paid through tax dollars, that is not the case. I guarantee you our schooling was pro-government, pro-taxes, and pro-union. You can only effect so many people through indoctrination when it vehemently contrasts from the culture ingrained upon them from society. Taxes are intrusive to my pursuit of happiness. Men should be entitled to the sweat of their brow. Both of these are american concepts. Our government takes care of some jobs. They do them. But to say they will ever be better than a private sector company is ridiculous. Especially seeing as how much the private sector has morphed since the 60s. Government is still stuck on the "increase efficiency" part. Which they will never get over, because they use other people's money for their projects.
As if yours wasn't any more emotional. Politics is nothing more than looking at a situation and coming up with a solution stringing facts with emotional calls. I brought up mass immigration into europe because its pretty obvious they are doing it because of america's success. After all, anyone who has taken one class of economics realises that the more people engauging in capitalism, the stronger the market becomes. But a lot of the things that made america what it is aren't compatible with countries in europe. I think its a euro country that will have a cultural backlash before us.
Immigration, capitalism, and radical individualism lead to america being the forerunner of the world. They worked because they are culturally compatible with Americans. To try to change them would be to change america, and in the process destroy its grasp on the world.
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Post by: ScumbagSoldier on August 29, 2015, 11:55:09 PM
I wouldn't necessarily endorse immigration. At least not right now.
We can't support the people we have already.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 30, 2015, 12:12:06 AM
When you actual look at American news and election polls it's obvious how much political issues that country has. There are too many people with veto power which means no policies can get through since there's always someone who can stop it from happening. The entire nation is divided between 2 primary groups who have no overlap and the media keeps inciting conflict out of everyone
It's worse than that honestly. Our two parties are pretty much the same except for a few societal issues. They are both fiscally left, and foreign policy right. On top of two seemingly identical parties, the "news" forces 2 candidates in your face and tell your to ignore the rest. If another civil war breaks out, it will be because of the rise of the internet.
To be brief I think that, if life becomes harder, the ground people of America will, at some point, just have no interest left in recognizing any sort of utility and authority in their government.
didnt see this, government exists for the people. they have the authority to lick my ass. read the constitution sometime, commie
The thing is, after a point, it becomes just better to either leave the country or to riot.
And this point is easily reachable because their not in a "do it and die" situation like in this video. Of course this point is far from being reached but I really think something can happen if the difference in life quality between life in the USA and life in another first-world country become bigger.
lol really? shit, first world country literally means "USA and its allies". And people think im delusional because i think everyone should be entitled to their worth.
I wouldn't necessarily endorse immigration. At least not right now.
We can't support the people we have already.
the immigration we have needs reform. There are three things im against. First is the colonial tier 14th amendment. Second is our immigration policy with mexico is too lenient. Never has america imported a nationality because of its proximity to the US instead of its merit. Third and lastly we must ship out the 11 million leeches and establish stronger borders. If you have a welfare state, you must have strict border control. I want neither, but there is no other way.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 30, 2015, 12:15:55 AM
someone give me an argument as to why flat tax is bad i literally cant even
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Kami_sama on August 30, 2015, 12:33:13 AM
Hiro posted while I was writting this. It's 6:30AM and I'm tired and I go to bed, I'll read and respond later. Excuse me for the typo and the like.
While you're not wrong, what you're describing is universal. I'd say it's even worse in socialist countries, where if you start moving up, you clearly have more than you need and should behave accordingly.
First of all, you're thinking in a black and white fashion. Most of Europe, if not all of Europe, is capitalist. You can have capitalism with some kind of government intervention, it doesn't make it socialism.
Some big differences between America and some more leftist country, like France for example, is that people know that their children have access to a good education and, would they choose to go to college, the fee wouldn't so high they couldn't go. Also they know that, should something happen on the health level, it wouldn't completely destroy their family by making them go bankrupt. This 2 insurances give them a good hope that their children may go up in the social ladder, despite them being poor. Having a society where people know their children can "go up" socially is usually something you want, because it reduces the feelings of injustice lower social classes may have and thus reduce criminality and the like.
Again, this issue is practically universal, and it comes from unpredictable change (economics, etc) coming faster than deliberate ones, like those made by the government, as well as likely pressure from businesses, etc. I definitely wouldn't say that people don't care. That said, common goals are one thing, but people aren't obliged to be "united" in anything. They're individuals before they're citizens, and people are generally united in smaller groups over many different things. Personally, I take something like that as reassuring, as it means people are shaping a more unique identity for themselves instead of being defined by the immediate and obvious, as in previous generations.
But people should realise that it's in their own interest to be united as a "nation", so to say, on some point. The fact is that businesses and rich people have a lot of leverage, due to their resources. If the poorer, less powerful people want a chances to have their voices heard, they have to band together to amass enough power to have their claim heard.
On the contrary. I think the reason we're starting to see so much more anti-goverment, etc rhetoric is because people are more educated than ever about the world around them, politics, economics, and growth, which gives them a greater understanding of not only why things are the way they are, but that they should be better. Granted, I do feel that many people are willing victims or ignorant, but that generally stems from more left wing types, I find.
When anti-government gain power, it's a bad sign, because it means that the government is doing a sloppy job. His job being to take care of his citizen.
Human will always need to live in society. This means needing rules to live together and the need to have a government to enforce them. Society can't exist without a government of some sort. People spouting anti-government nonsense are usually, I find, blind to the real causes of their problem and use the anti-government things like some other people use racism to make a situation seems easier by putting all the blame on someone. So I don't share your view on this issue.
I'd like to highlight this
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Granted, I do feel that many people are willing victims or ignorant, but that generally stems from more left wing types, I find.
This kind of black and white thinking is a typical problem that stop yourself from finding a solution. "Duh, left-wing people are dumb" mentality isn't a good one, because it makes you look down on every thing they say without even considering it. They may not be right on everything, but neither are you. In every debate I see about the American politics, everyone go from one extreme to an other : "nanny-state" versus no state. "socialist" vs "liberal" or whatever. That's a real problem, because you may only be "united" to a smaller group that your whole country but you gotta live with all the people in your country, or at least your state, since you're all under the same lawn and politician. So you gotta be united with everyone from time to time.
Of course. They have a culture of lies, a corrupt government, a dysfunctional economic structure, are in a state of perpetual growth despite the fact that they can't accommodate it fast enough, and are exploited, and are forced into obligation then worked to death. If it doesn't come in our lifetime (it might.) Things are definitely going to get dicey before it comes, and I'd definitely say that almost the entire world is due for a similar measure.
Here I also disagree. People aren't being let down by their government as much in Western Europe. France has a huge young unemployment level but still give them money so they can eat and still take care of the old people so they don't die in the street. Countries have to really be in the real shit to begin to have an approach similar to the US on social services.
One of the main point of having a country is that, if you stick together with more people, life becomes easier because everyone is making a small sacrifice that could maybe help you a great deal. I feel like the US miss the point.
While I don't really care about all that beef with Hiro, what you describe towards the end is symptomatic of the times we live in, where nothing seems to be working, so we'll cling to anything that "might" work. Again, this is universal.
You missed my point. My point is that the US does seem to be able to have a cold-headed debate while taking things with a grain of salt, think not only in absolute but also in shades of grey and so on.
Currently political debate I saw felt more like people yelling their truth and whoever yelled the strongest win. This is not a global thing.
As an aside, is the tax rate in socialist countries really 60%? Because that's fucking disgusting.
No it's not. Also taxe rate is usually progressive. Like, for example (totally made up number), if you make 1 million per year, the first 100'000 will be taxed at 10%, then the following 500'000 at 13% and so on or something like that.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 30, 2015, 12:51:50 AM
90% of your post is already replied to in my previous comments. of course different systems make different countries happier.
the reason american college funds are so high is because of government education and government sanctioned loans
Sweden has a progressive income tax, the rates for 2014 are as follows: 0% from 0 kr to 18,800 kr (~0 – 2,690 USD) Circa 31% (ca. 7% county and 24% municipality tax): from 18,800 kr to 433,900 kr (~2,690 – 62,140 USD) 31% + 20%: from 433,900 kr to 615,700 kr (~62,140 – 88,180 USD)
31% for the poor, 51% for what would be considered upper-poor to lower-middle class in america. This tax system is nearly indefensible
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 30, 2015, 12:56:28 AM
hur american politics are so emotional dum americans xd
its the same as it ever was
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: ScumbagSoldier on August 30, 2015, 01:13:54 AM
I still maintain that Americans can band together when necessary. More than that, while a subset of citizens dismiss opposing ideologies wholesale, I wouldn't consider it universal. If anything, I'd associate the behavior you're describing more with Sweden, etc.
I also still maintain that regardless of politics, unity over a common goal is universal.
I understand what you mean that things as they are, making sacrifices makes some things easier, but you and I both know that shouldn't happen. More than that, I feel such sacrifices should be a choice, rather than an obligation.
As for your statement on Western Europe being satisfied with their government, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one, since it's a polarizing issue, from what I've seen.
Now, your assertion that being incapable of seeing eye to eye across political viewpoints is exclusively an American issue is pure fucking bullshit, though.
@Hiro
Where the fuck do you live where 80 grand is lower middle class?
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 正義のヒイロ on August 30, 2015, 12:29:49 PM
america. a newlywed couple fresh out of college* can make 80k a year easily.
*with degrees that arent shit
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on August 30, 2015, 12:55:16 PM
cancerous thread
politics have no place in a dictatorship like api
locked!
(http://i.imgur.com/5kLUyVW.gif)
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on August 30, 2015, 02:53:34 PM
NUH UH YOU'RE WRONG I'M RIGHT: Now playing until the end of time
(http://i.imgur.com/Z8LE0bT.gif)
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on August 30, 2015, 06:01:04 PM
"HI GUYS I'M MING AND I CAN'T HANDLE ANY SORT OF CONFLICT OR ARGUMENT."
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Kami_sama on August 30, 2015, 06:02:57 PM
Pls don't bully our Queen :sad2:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ollistar on August 30, 2015, 06:27:49 PM
"HI GUYS I'M MING AND I CAN'T HANDLE ANY SORT OF CONFLICT OR ARGUMENT."
You can argue whatever you want except for politics
You're not gonna expand your mind or convince anyone of anything
Everyone supports the ideas that benefits their own situation only and that is an iron clad rule buddy
It's utterly pointless and only makes people dislike each other if anything
Do you even know how many times I've debated political ideas as someone who is poor
Bitching about politics is all poor people do when they interact with each other
I hate them
I hate them all so much
POOR PEOPLE SUCK
(http://i.imgur.com/8eyKEGX.png)
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on August 31, 2015, 07:31:22 AM
>Naruto >claiming people don't learn from the exchange of ideas >the implication that discourse is bad if no one changes their mind Damn Ming. 10/10 ironic shitposting right there.
I do think you're right to an extent though. Most pick whatever is favorable to them personally
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on August 31, 2015, 08:21:13 AM
KID Zabusa was THE BOSS and Naruto was actually an enjoyable shounen until his arc was over
(http://i.imgur.com/Ea90EYJ.jpg)
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Kami_sama on August 31, 2015, 08:28:41 AM
Don't worry Ming, rich people also spend their time bitching about how much taxes they have to pay. :wink:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: ScumbagSoldier on August 31, 2015, 02:33:32 PM
Your entire post is dildos, Ming.
Except for the part about hating each other, but that's only because I'm a petty fuck, Kami's a shill, and RQ is trying to destroy civilization.
I liked Naruto until the end of the Pain arc.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on August 31, 2015, 02:45:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/twrM6kH.png)
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ollistar on August 31, 2015, 06:44:06 PM
Canada is objectively the best place in the world to live
We have the right balance of socialism and getting I SUCKed by immigrants compared to the rest of the "western" countries
Prove me wrong
Switzerland is the same but we get to bath in money from time to time. :relax:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: ScumbagSoldier on September 03, 2015, 09:12:39 PM
>Socialists
>Money
Ayy Lmao
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Kami_sama on September 03, 2015, 10:47:24 PM
much shattered illusion my dear? Perhaps you'd like to check the GPB per capita of some countries (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita) and see how much socialism arms the economy?
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: ScumbagSoldier on September 03, 2015, 11:12:13 PM
1. I was half joking.
2. GDP does not directly translate to wealth of individuals. Especially not in Socialist countries. ESPECIALLY not if that country operates under Keynesian theory.
Although, I am curious now. Does Switzerland have some sort of trade besides chocolate I didn't know about, or is that number just a laundry list of unprofitable ventures artificially kept afloat?
EDIT: Oh, I think I was misunderstanding that list. Yeah, nobody cares about that shit.
Nominal GDP doesn't even account for population or inflation. What you want is purchasing power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: RQ on September 04, 2015, 10:22:54 PM
Why are you measuring amount of money instead of amount of life quality and satisfaction? :omg:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on September 04, 2015, 10:59:24 PM
What do you think determines life quality and satisfaction? My ability to consume, ya dunce! Also because those are unquantafiable, and it's even easier to smudge the numbers.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: RQ on September 05, 2015, 12:16:22 AM
What do you think determines life quality and satisfaction? My ability to consume, ya dunce!
Consumerism is gross :gloom:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on September 05, 2015, 12:33:21 AM
Also GDP isn't technically a measurement of the amount of "money" a country has. So for example, a country might overexert itself and produce 70trillion dollars worth of goods and services. But because they used all their resources, the next year they only produce 10 trillion, and they all starve. Thus what's more important is merely sustaining a small amount of growth, typically 2-4%, and minimizing the inevitable troughs. It's merely the monetary value of all that it produces. And the great thing about living in a capitalist country, is that you have a choice! You don't HAVE to take part in consumerism if you don't want to! If you want to, you could just save your money, live on the bare essentials, and donate the rest to Africa or something.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on September 14, 2015, 09:17:16 AM
BASED TONE R.I.P 4 DAYS AWAY FROM PM PENSION BEFORE HE WAS BACKSTABBED R.I.P STRONG LEADER
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on September 14, 2015, 09:46:48 AM
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: ScumbagSoldier on October 13, 2015, 01:56:47 PM
I had a choice to have more money in my pockets. But I chose not to, because it would mean I wouldn't be able to spend as much time NEETing
And I'd rather starve than do the stupid, humiliating crap they make you do to get that extra money
You're gonna starve anyway, dude. It'll just take longer.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Kami_sama on October 13, 2015, 02:50:19 PM
It's not because it's not like in America that it won't work. :wink:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: ScumbagSoldier on October 13, 2015, 03:01:25 PM
>America >Working
That's just as funny as saying Sweden works.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on October 13, 2015, 03:07:22 PM
Venezuela went full fucking retard with their economy Invested everything into their large oil supply. Something like 70% of their GDP is based around oil exportation. As soon as their reserves start running low they're fucked, if demand ever falls they're fucked. Happened back in the 80s, happened in the GFC They're a poor nation that can't afford their populist social spending They have also failed to invest in alternative production to oil because all the money goes to social spending This means they have high as fuck inflation. The government is constantly giving money to people who have nothing to buy due to the constant shortages
If any country can afford to be socialist, it's actually the rich countries.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on February 27, 2016, 08:03:22 PM
Lmao good one China.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on February 28, 2016, 01:07:09 PM
won't load bro
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on February 28, 2016, 01:53:36 PM
Sweden works fine RIGHT NOW, like all socialist "OMG So enlightened and great" countries, but unless they figure out a long term strategy they will inevitable just slowly sink into abject poverty. Lack of Permanent economical output and large unskilled immigrant importation and absolutely stagnant GDP show it to be true.
I'm not saying Ming is a bad person for enjoying it for the time being, though. Afterall, everyone is guilty of living in the now sometimes.
I just hope it lasts for him :dance:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on February 28, 2016, 02:44:58 PM
I don't like living here
I'm moving to Norway one day, if I can
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on February 28, 2016, 02:47:55 PM
iirc poland is really conservative and anti-immigrant.
To be fair, Conservative isn't a a bad thing for a lot of people and it's totally fine with WHITE immigrants. Or Asian Immigrants. Or pretty much any Immigrants other than the ones the EU is trying to force it to take in.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: schizotypical on February 28, 2016, 10:33:21 PM
Ted cruz is a mexican carpetbagging fat ugly brown canadian.
What I see in the us is niggs allied with other browns pushing for their own interests against whites, sure white american will deny racism and say they want less government but the goverment is enforcing nigs interests and covering up the race war. Ron paul meets up with the stormfront forum owner, trump reblogs from a white nationalist twitter, neither of them are "supermacists" their interests just happen to coincide with american-white interests.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on February 28, 2016, 10:37:22 PM
American race relations are a fucking joke holy shit. How'd it get even worse.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: ScumbagSoldier on February 28, 2016, 11:09:18 PM
iirc poland is really conservative and anti-immigrant.
Yes, and?
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on February 29, 2016, 06:37:13 AM
Poland is only good for cheap labor
Like 90% of anything here is built by them, though the quality is... as expected, for those low, low practically slave labor prices
And it's not unheard of, of rich Swedes hiring polish maids and servants for basically table scraps, extremely illegal of course, but who gonna persecute them
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Kami_sama on February 29, 2016, 07:49:32 AM
I was saying that about Poland to explain to Ming why scummy would want to be here. :nyoron:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: ScumbagSoldier on February 29, 2016, 03:58:42 PM
I don't mind certain social liberalisms, and I only oppose immigration when it excarbarates problems with employment, availability of housing, etc. :poh:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on February 29, 2016, 04:45:38 PM
>cheap pure aryan meidos That sounds great though.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on March 01, 2016, 04:59:40 PM
Why must we all fight like this? We have been manipulated and divided. We are all one and the same, but we have been tricked by the enemy. The enemy is a trickster that leads us astray. Who is this enemy you ask? Why it is the Jew of course! We must all unite, blacks, Whites, and Asians, to fight and defeat the Jewish menace. They are not human, they are a race of space aliens. Look at their noses if you need proof of their alien biology. They pit us against one another for their own amusement. Unite as one and end the Jewish menace.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on March 01, 2016, 05:38:57 PM
Quote
We are all one and the same
Don't lump me in with you losers!
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on March 01, 2016, 06:04:50 PM
Ming are you admitting to being a JUDEN?!?!
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: RQ on March 01, 2016, 07:28:30 PM
גוים טובים :scheming:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Kami_sama on March 02, 2016, 02:36:18 AM
Onward brothers! We shall purify our world with blood and fire!
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on March 02, 2016, 02:39:04 AM
Don't worry guys, I can translate the Yiddish devil "I love cock!"
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: ScumbagSoldier on March 09, 2016, 12:53:21 AM
Reminder: (http://i.imgur.com/kyOUV56.jpg)
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on March 09, 2016, 09:34:34 AM
City states with tyranny is the only answer
Make Greece Greek Again
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on April 15, 2016, 03:38:14 AM
Make this man president. (http://i.imgur.com/gyv1th3.png)
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on April 15, 2016, 08:21:46 AM
I need that picture in full res
:drool:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on June 12, 2016, 07:12:37 PM
Should we remove islam?
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on June 13, 2016, 09:32:39 AM
Islam and all the big, organized religions (so Christianity and Judaism) has no place in modern times. The function which it served as a unifying force has already been replaced on each level.
Now it only serves as something murderers and extremists can rally around.
Personal faith is well and good but religious gatherings should be banned. They only divide men and turn them against each other for the profit of people who are not them.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on June 13, 2016, 09:42:47 AM
Islam and all the big, organized religions (so Christianity and Judaism) has no place in modern times. The function which it served as a unifying force has already been replaced on each level.
Now it only serves as something murderers and extremists can rally around.
Personal faith is well and good but religious gatherings should be banned. They only divide men and turn them against each other for the profit of people who are not them.
Islam is worse than Christianity and even Judaism in almost every category.
People who compare Islam Radicalism to things like the Westboro Baptist church or the Crusades (lol) are misinformed at best, and idiots at worst
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: DirtyRed on June 13, 2016, 02:34:19 PM
If we want islam to go away, we need to come up with a new religion, more cruel and brutal than islam. :wink:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Kami_sama on June 13, 2016, 05:18:50 PM
the church of best girl :nod:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Kami_sama on June 14, 2016, 12:03:00 PM
Stupid and/or drunk people driving cars manage to beat the Islamist efficiency wise and they aren't even trying. Yet another proof of the superiority of Western civilization. :poh:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ollistar on June 14, 2016, 03:36:09 PM
monotheism is a sickness and Islam is a cancer.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on June 14, 2016, 05:02:00 PM
>being polytheist lmao no strong ethical foundations my god could beat your gods
@Ming you are never ever going to ban religious gatherings. Not only would you have to get past the constitution, but you'd also end up with a shitton of riots. You'd need a heavy police force, and you'd likely end up with every religion ever going full terrorist.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: pomo-chan on June 14, 2016, 11:40:59 PM
CHURCH. OF. POMO. :frusterated:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on June 14, 2016, 11:51:38 PM
what is your bidding pomo
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on June 15, 2016, 10:53:53 AM
I take it that you haven't been involved in too many religious gatherings and will excuse your ignorance.
Not a large amount, but enough to know what goes on and that different communities do it very differently. From a bunch of old people coming out of the woodwork just to do something with the priest reading from the bible or just talking about world events, to hardcore indoctrination of children into not just the faith but something more of a cult where they wish to rule over your every action. Personally I've been to gatherings of Protestants, Catholics, and Jehovah's Witnesses.
One of my old friends' girlfriend was raised in what I guess you could our version of the inbred, super fundamentalist and super heavy on brainwashing, bible belt community.
No internet. No TV or books unless they've been deemed acceptable material to be exposed to. Same with music of course. Your not allowed to befriend someone unless they're either of your commune or might as well be. How you dress and look also heavily controlled and judged. Who you speak to. Phone use. Etc etc.
God damn lunatics. Worst thing is groups like this naturally only still exist here because they've been a part of local government since decades ago and no body fucking votes in local elections ever so they don't get kicked out either. Thankfully it's super hard to keep people so isolated in the 21st century so it can't go on forever and people do break out.
@Ming you are never ever going to ban religious gatherings. Not only would you have to get past the constitution, but you'd also end up with a shitton of riots. You'd need a heavy police force, and you'd likely end up with every religion ever going full terrorist.
That's funny.
1) I don't live in America, there's no constitution here 2) My country is one of if not the most secular and unfaithful nations in the world
(http://i.imgur.com/OmPkqmJ.png)
The above is a chart of the proportion of atheists and agnostics around the world, from Wikipedia.
3) Many of our Churches are already being either torn down or sold off as private property 4) Most people never even step foot inside a Church outside weddings, baptisms, and confirmation and only because its tradition, there's no religious motivation behind it. 5) This isn't just a trend that's spreading out into continental Europe, but the world. As you can see in the above picture.
Know how I grew up around tons of Muslim families? Well, not a single one of them adhered to daily prayer. No one intends on pilgrimage to Mecca. Several even eat pork, drink and gamble. No one attends any sort of religious gathering regularly. Hell amongst the Buddhists I've known they celebrate Christmas and Easter for the sake of their kids.
Religion is fucking dying m8. All that will remain is the cultural influence. I say give it 2-3 generations and religious people will be a minority in the west across the board.
And I bet a good chunk of those will be terror cells on their last leg. People will think of religious people and picture Mr. Arab with a belt of TNT. If banning religious institutions came up after an event similar to 911 on the grounds of 'protecting the people' it would pass.
Of course, non-institutionalized and personal faiths will live on much longer as they adapt and largely revolve around the individual rather than the masses, and are closer to a way of living and pose no threat to others.
(http://i.imgur.com/t8ZLcEo.gif)
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on June 15, 2016, 02:57:49 PM
>Self Avowed Religion Hater >Knowing anything about Spirtualism
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on June 16, 2016, 04:04:18 PM
Oh but I love religion and spiritualism
(http://i.imgur.com/Lb1Seyj.jpg)
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on June 16, 2016, 04:31:47 PM
Dis nigga (http://i.imgur.com/kWEy2RF.jpg)
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ollistar on June 16, 2016, 04:52:17 PM
fuck that Ming if you want enlightenment talk to a buddhist monk. You'd get way more out of it.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: murasa on June 16, 2016, 05:33:27 PM
Now that one deserves an anime reaction image
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on June 16, 2016, 05:51:29 PM
I always imagine monks, or at least european monks
acting like we act on api, just more old-timey
I know for a fact that there are Knights fighting giant evil snails in lots of old manuscripts and illustrations just because monks were the ones who made manuscripts and illustrations, and they also farmed their own food and gardens and got pissed at snails
old-school memes
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Post by: Ming on June 17, 2016, 10:22:23 AM
Medieval monks are a great topic
Probably the biggest group of unsung heroes of western civilization
If that's true then I'm sure you'd find talking to a priest enlightening
I already have. And I think priests are amazing people who have my admiration. If you ask me Christianity has its share of bad apples but by and large its the sole reason western Europe came to ever have any sort of prosperity after Rome. Even today many parishes do good for the very poor and homeless when nobody else will step up. I am not condemning something I do not understand.
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Post by: McJongJing on June 24, 2016, 04:50:27 AM
I think it's too soon to say Britain is economically fucked. After any major political event with future uncertainty you'll have people pull out. Whether or not the ensuing structure will improve or worsen remains to be seen. It's entirely possible that your pound will just bounce back.
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Post by: ScumbagSoldier on June 24, 2016, 05:04:41 AM
I honestly don't know enough to comment myself, but it seems a lot of "smart" commentators are saying that the EU is a travesty and that pulling out is the right thing to do.
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Post by: Ming on June 24, 2016, 09:12:24 AM
I honestly don't know enough to comment myself, but it seems a lot of "smart" commentators are saying that the EU is a travesty and that pulling out is the right thing to do.
The EU is bullshit (for every country that isn't poor) and Bongistan pulling out is the right thing to do. I hope more countries will follow.
:cheer:
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Post by: landshark on June 24, 2016, 09:53:18 AM
WOT BOUT ME TWO-HUNDRED BONGERS
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Post by: landshark on June 24, 2016, 09:55:55 AM
the vote leavers were mostly 50+, as well as being less educated and having a lower income
they don't have to live with the decision as long as young people do
I do hope for the best but anything could happen at this rate
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Post by: Kami_sama on June 24, 2016, 11:10:33 AM
The average voter made a decision he couldn't understand.
The leave side only offered emotional argument with any ground.
The old followed their fear since they wouldn't have to live with the consequences.
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Post by: Kami_sama on June 24, 2016, 11:21:07 AM
None of them took care to instruct themselves on the issue. Heck, they even refused to listen to experts.
So yeah, an good chunk of them are retards.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on June 24, 2016, 06:40:40 PM
Yeah, whatever, Kami. I really don't think the 48% of people now whining that Democracy is a failure and that Fascism has won and crying about how they're still vomiting and having anxiety attacks because WW3 IS AROUND THE CORNER!!!!! all know every single part of the issues they voted on.
But sure, a majority of the UK all had no idea what they were doing, it's literally impossible for someone to vote against globalism without being an uneducated idiot!!!
Sure, Landshark, all of the people who voted (52% - a majority) are old people who don't deserve a vote because they are old.
After all, only places like London and Scotland matter, right? The rest of the UK's votes shouldn't count because every single one of them is old and wrong and racist and white. Obviously we should stop allowing people like that to vote and only allow CORRECT people to make decisions, that's the only way to stop fascism.
Keep telling yourselves that.
Seriously. If it's the old people's fault, and only old people would choose something so dumb, who was it that voted 2/3rd for the EU in 1975? That's right. The same old people who have seen the EU become an increasingly monolithic, bureaucratic, overflowing onahole of an organization.
Remember, the people who are now demanding to end democratic votes and praying for riots to break out aren't the leavers.
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Post by: a worthless person on June 24, 2016, 07:07:39 PM
Seriously. This is the same shit that is going to keep happening if people don't smarten up. You have a whole political sphere and class of people who are ignoring massive quantities of normal human beings, and labelling them as nothing but racists and idiots. Marginalizing their entire lives and minds into nothing but scum statistics.
Do you really think MAJORITY of people are going to just agree with them, and willingly label themselves idiots and racists and scum and nonpersons and vote for the other side? Of course not. So then Brexit wins, and liberals are suprised that this massive part of the population that they pretend barely exists as fellow human beings manages to win, rather than whining with their tail between their legs and relegating themselves to being hated laughingstocks, perpetual losers.
Brexit won. Trump beat every other republican nominee-vyer. The asian twink trap wearing thigh highs who votes for trump exists. The 3rd generation middle-eastern immigrant in the UK who voted for Leave because he wants the same sane immigration laws that let his grandfather in, not the untapped flood they were heading towards exists.
And if it were true that LITERALLY 52% OF THE UK, A MAJORITY, IN THE LARGEST VOTER TURNOUT SINCE 1992 voted for leave, and all leave voters are neo-nazi scum, idiots, and old people, well maybe it's a sign that the other side is on the way out, not them.
And it's going to keep happening until the left starts to realize that they can't just paint anyone who disagrees with them for any reason as bigots and fools and non-people. Maybe they can start treating their opponents as real people and 'educate them' on the issues that apparently lead to these massive upsets instead of just shouting into an echo chamber about how all opponents are just terrible racist idiots. At least the right acknowledges the left as a threat. The left just pretends anyone who disagrees barely exist as anything but strawmen until they lose.
"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me." is becoming more and more true. Soon, the left won't have any new words left to throw at the opposition, and they certainly don't have any fucking stones.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on June 24, 2016, 07:21:00 PM
Are you implying your vote doesn't count if you're uneducated working class? Fucking bourgeois.
Anyway worthless I don't necessarily disagree with you, but explain why leaving was a good idea
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on June 24, 2016, 07:34:36 PM
Are you implying your vote doesn't count if you're uneducated working class? Fucking bourgeois.
Anyway worthless I don't necessarily disagree with you, but explain why leaving was a good idea
Because the EU is undemocratic. It can pass legislature and laws without the democratic consent of the representative voters of their client states, and that is never a good thing, even if the EU was ACTUALLY a prosperous peace-upholding utopia as people paint it.
But it's not. It drains the money and sovereignty of more well-off nations and funnels into into absolute trash fires like Greece, tries to bully nations into doing things they don't want (see: Poland), and generally does nothing good other than protect the rights of food manufacturers and vacuum wholesalers.
People will try to shout "but muh freedom of movement and trade agreements!" and shit, but that shit is less than 100 years old and isn't somehow now REQUIRED to facilitate trade or vacations. Look at Switzerland - they're just fine outside the EU.
Plus, there were definite eventual goals of starting an army only responsible to the EU itself, and eventually forming some sort of super-state, and trying to bind so many culturally distinct nations under a single federation is dumb - The only time it's worked is the USA, and even then there are constant growing pains. Imagine how bad an American Civil-War like situation would be with modern tools in Europe? Federations are bad.
There are already signs that the UK will be a preferential trading partner with the EU just like Switzerland, Germany is already having ministers talking about how they need to make the departure as fast and amicable as possible, much to the contrary of Remainer doomsaying bullshit.
Oh, like we're supposed to take market downturn on the MORNING OF THE VOTE as a sign that the UK economy will be doomed forever? The Global Stock Markets crashed by 70% when 9/11 happened, was that permanent?
I'm not saying that the referendum as it was was the best choice of action, but the EU is a fucking bumsore of an idea and no nation should be beholden to it. Better by a democratic vote than with bullets.
(Inb4 someone pulls the "But the EU has kept Europe free of war for the longest time ever! - Protip, it wasn't the EU. It was NATO and the godawful, fearful reality that is Mutually Assured Destruction. Brussels-Based Bureaucracy hasn't kept Europe safe, the fear of nuclear Armageddon backed up by United States Military Bases, Missile Silos and Worldwide Naval Supremacy did.)
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: landshark on June 25, 2016, 02:01:32 AM
People will try to shout "but muh freedom of movement and trade agreements!" and shit, but that shit is less than 100 years old and isn't somehow now REQUIRED to facilitate trade or vacations. Look at Switzerland - they're just fine outside the EU.
Except Switzerland has a shitloads of agreement to reap most of the benefit of being in the EU. Except Switzerland still has to accept, in returns, a lots of policies from the EU.
Except when Switzerland broke the Schengen's treaty, and saw direct consequences with loss of European funding for its research institution, European research project being withdrawn from Switzerland, the Erasmus project, a very important way to promote Switzerland, kicking Switzerland out, and so on.
If you're a watchmaker or a big Switzerland corp, it indeed makes no difference for you. If you're a small business, good luck exporting to Europe, you probably won't be allowed to.
Britain left to be able to do what their people want, but will in fact still have to comply with most of EU regulations.
What's different with Switzerland is that they had enough power to influence those regulations in their favour. Now they can just endure them.
I am not here talking from a left point of view, but from an economical point of view.
Europe won't collapse and Britain just forfeited her power to influence its grown in the direction she wanted.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on June 25, 2016, 06:51:48 PM
Britain was never going to be able to influence it's growth in the way it wants.
The only EU member capable of doing that are the Germans
I'm not saying the EU has no advantages, but I PERSONALLY thing that the negatives outweigh them.
I just think most people who are crying doom and gloom over this are massively overexaggerating the good sides of the EU. Britain isn't suddenly going to be a 3rd world backwater in 20 years (Or any more than it already is :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:)
MAYBE some smaller countries that are now calling for referendums won't be as well off afterwards, like the Netherlands, but for the UK they'll be fine, at worst.
Britain was never going to be able to influence it's growth in the way it wants.
The only EU member capable of doing that are the Germans
I'm not saying the EU has no advantages, but I PERSONALLY thing that the negatives outweigh them.
I just think most people who are crying doom and gloom over this are massively overexaggerating the good sides of the EU. Britain isn't suddenly going to be a 3rd world backwater in 20 years (Or any more than it already is :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:)
MAYBE some smaller countries that are now calling for referendums won't be as well off afterwards, like the Netherlands, but for the UK they'll be fine, at worst.
The asian twink trap wearing thigh highs who votes for trump exists.
:owo:
There's one who posts on /k/. I posted that picture with the dildo and gun and trump hat with "I voted" in the selfie thread.
what they look like
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Post by: a worthless person on June 29, 2016, 07:07:36 PM
You know what's funny? People are acting like the GBP is completely worthless but I heard it's around the same price as the Australian Dollar.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on June 29, 2016, 07:13:20 PM
Australia has minerals and shit to export. So having a lower dollar doesn't really hurt us that much as it raises our export volume. Isn't Britian primarily a service economy?
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on August 03, 2016, 06:39:52 AM
(https://a.pomf.cat/oplyas.png)
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Post by: Ming on August 03, 2016, 09:05:28 AM
Sweden must be destroyed!
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Post by: McJongJing on August 03, 2016, 07:18:59 PM
Must be or will be?
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on August 05, 2016, 07:16:22 PM
Will be.
(http://i.imgur.com/EgYmKpi.jpg)
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on August 14, 2016, 12:30:03 PM
(https://a.pomf.cat/edrylb.png)
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on August 14, 2016, 06:13:58 PM
tbh Justin's pretty handsome. If only he wasn't such a BETA
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: DirtyRed on August 14, 2016, 06:39:05 PM
The 'point' of Libertarianism is to limit the government only to tasks that a government-less society can't do as well - National Security, Roads, Police and Fire Fighting, etc.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on September 27, 2016, 06:58:18 PM
Huh, I thought it was straight up scrapping the goverment. Less retarded than what I thought it was.
>Democracy Works! >The Government has your best interests in mind! >The Government exists for the people, not the other way around! >The Left respects democracy! >Your votes matter, sheep!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: McJongJing on November 05, 2016, 03:55:38 PM
I like that Hillary lost some points, this keeps things thrilling.
I actually have a 5 dollar bet on trump winning with a friend I don't even like Trump but I want him to win so I can wipe the smug face off of my friend
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Post by: a worthless person on November 05, 2016, 05:07:10 PM
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on November 06, 2016, 06:03:28 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/k7CytaY.jpg) LESS THAN TWENTY FOUR HOURS UNTIL THE SMACKDOWN OF THE CENTURY WILL HILL CROOK? OR WILL TRUMP FINALLY BE STUMPED?
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Post by: landshark on November 06, 2016, 12:38:10 PM
i wunda wot appins
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on November 08, 2016, 07:45:48 PM
CAN YOU FEEL IT
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Post by: landshark on November 08, 2016, 09:36:50 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/82YkUyH.png)
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on November 08, 2016, 10:42:26 PM
Choo choo
(http://i.imgur.com/nsbI7xO.jpg)
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Post by: landshark on November 09, 2016, 01:25:03 AM
MAGA
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Post by: a worthless person on November 09, 2016, 03:11:24 AM
he did it
the madman went and did it
MISTER PRESIDENT, DONALD J TRUMP
:eee:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on November 09, 2016, 03:11:48 AM
(Also Republican majority in senate AND congress)
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on November 09, 2016, 06:03:31 AM
I can't believe we actually elected a meme president The salt from this has been fucking beautiful
they put a lever action shotgun into the same classification as Semi-Automatic rifles like the AR-15 (I.E. Impossible to get for most citizens) because it looks scary to them
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Post by: Ming on December 14, 2016, 08:43:45 AM
That's pretty dumb
:tyrone:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on January 22, 2017, 03:12:30 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/5C28XWJ.png)
N I C E
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on January 24, 2017, 02:47:07 AM
The Limo that got blown up and burnt in DC that everyone was posting pictures of to show how much they hate the evil rich white men.
Is owned by a Muslim immigrant and will cost his self-started company up to 70,000 dollars
my mirth continues to expand :laugh:
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Post by: McJongJing on January 24, 2017, 07:18:16 AM
how did the limo blow up? I thought these were peaceful protesters
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Post by: landshark on January 24, 2017, 10:14:27 AM
link to limo
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Post by: a worthless person on January 24, 2017, 12:37:24 PM
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Post by: Kami_sama on January 24, 2017, 01:37:14 PM
Those people are shitheads.
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Post by: Ming on January 25, 2017, 05:43:38 PM
It's shameful.
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Post by: McJongJing on January 25, 2017, 08:55:49 PM
lol they got prison and felonies
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on January 28, 2017, 07:58:13 PM
So Trump "Banned Muslims."
Regardless of personal feelings on this, I feel like letting my thoughts on the subject out somewhere nice and easy.
1. TRUMP IS BANNING ALL MUSLIMS!!! No. First of all, it's not a ban. It's a 90 day hold on accepting refugees and immigrants from certain countries from entering into the country. Furthermore, it's not even all muslims, just muslims from certain countries deemed by his administration as threats to the united states, or failed states. The top five Muslim countries by population aren't included. It even allows exceptions, so that 'famous' director that news stories are already saying will be banned from coming to an award show will probably be let through.
It is nothing close to a permanent ban on Muslims.
2. People continue to decry that it is Unamerican and Unconstitutional, or directly impinging the constitution.
Deciding what is "American" or "Un-American" is a pointless exercise, because the strengths of America are manyfold, and many people have their own interpretations of what is american. That's out of the way, it's a non-argument.
As for the Constitution; I'll start with one side note. These same people are generally fine to trample over the constitution when it suits them, trying to say it's a living document and attempting to mock people who are strict constitutionalists.
That aside, Donald Trump's move is not against the constitution. Constitutional rights only extend to citizens of the United States, and fleeing refugees and green-card holders are by definition not American Citizens.
Existing laws that have been around for decades before Trump even ran for office allow for moves like Trumps: 8 U.S. Code § 1182
Quote
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
This was put into the US Code in ~1991, IIRC.
I might add more to this post but I wanted to get that off my chest.
I'm kind of annoyed by the decision, not because of the merits of the decision itself, but mostly because of the annoying outcry, protests and chest-thumping panic now gripping the world, with things like Trudeau saying he'll take anyone that the US bars from entry into Canada, and people I follow who I enjoy suddenly getting all political and lefty which is annoying from people i'm used to not talking about this shit.
Coincidentally, this becomes a huge topic and hides the good things he's doing like
This is after he killed TPP and among countless other executive orders and such in less than a month.
He told us that we would keep winning, that we would say "slow down". This is what he meant. This right here, and he hasn't even been in office for a month.
:thank you:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: McJongJing on January 28, 2017, 09:54:32 PM
lolcockblocked
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Post by: Ming on January 29, 2017, 07:56:16 AM
I can't get enough, this is the first time I've seen a politician (well, technically he wasn't until recently) actually go through with what he's promised and he doesn't pussy around things either.
I WISH he was my president.
(http://i.imgur.com/3WGxgoU.jpg)
:love2:
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Post by: Kami_sama on January 29, 2017, 11:32:44 AM
trump-sama :kyaa:
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Post by: a worthless person on January 29, 2017, 01:26:26 PM
I can't get enough, this is the first time I've seen a politician (well, technically he wasn't until recently) actually go through with what he's promised and he doesn't pussy around things either.
I WISH he was my president.
(http://i.imgur.com/3WGxgoU.jpg)
:love2:
The only downside is that every day he signs another executive order that starts another riot
he was right in his campaign
we're winning so much we're getting tired of winning and asking him to slow down
give us a break before wins, trump-sama
:laugh:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on January 30, 2017, 02:51:40 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/wuoRvml.jpg)
>mosque in quebec gets shot up with 5 deaths
>OH MY GOD TRUUUUUMPPPPPP YOUR HATE HAS SPREAD ACROSS THE BORRRRRDDDEEEEERRRRRR
>Media still hasn't come out about the race of the two suspects, which automatically means they aren't white, or we'd have heard about the racist islamophobic whites already
>apparently it's two muslim men of a different sect
can't wait for the liberal mental gymnastics about how this is somehow donald trump's fault.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: animal on February 07, 2017, 04:14:33 PM
Haha according to an article from about 1 weeks ago which I have just read now, the shooter was white. Bet you felt pretty dumb 1 weeks ago
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Post by: McJongJing on February 07, 2017, 04:32:41 PM
Worthy rekt
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on February 09, 2017, 01:05:10 AM
He bombed an airfield from which Assad had launched planes carrying chemical weapons, which killed many civilians
I'd heard there was advance warning of the bombing.
Or did you mean the chemical weapons?
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Post by: Ollistar on April 08, 2017, 01:40:11 AM
There's a ton of evidence that suggests the "chemical bombs" were a set up by the rebels to make the gov look bad. Not that I'm supporting Assad by any means.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on June 22, 2017, 01:35:17 AM
>Suprememe Court passes a decision defending the 1st amendment's true intent, providing a massive case-law precident that """""""""Hate Speech"""""""" is defended by the allowances for Freedom of Speech in America.
"[The idea that the government may restrict] speech expressing ideas that offend … strikes at the heart of the First Amendment. Speech that demeans on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, religion, age, disability, or any other similar ground is hateful; but the proudest boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom to express “the thought that we hate.”"
""It offends a bedrock First Amendment principle: Speech may not be banned on the ground that it expresses ideas that offend," Justice Samuel Alito said in his opinion for the court."
That's right, more ammunition against idiots who think that Freedom of Speech only allows 'safe' speech that would never be infringed or need protection to begin with.
DOG
BLEDS
AMERIGA!!!!!!!!!! :sing: :sing: :sing: :sing:
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Post by: Ming on June 22, 2017, 11:04:09 AM
That's pretty damn great
What a world we live in where people want to (or are) making laws to prevent hurt feelings :poh:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: a worthless person on June 22, 2017, 11:13:05 PM
What a world we live in where people want to (or are) making laws to prevent hurt feelings :poh:
Sadly, for whatever merit people think such laws may have, they are much easier to make than to get rid of. People who support such laws don't seem to realize that the laws will be on the books for a long time, even if the Government itself shifts and starts to use such laws to target other 'unpopular speech'. Never give the government too much control, because tomorrow, or a decade from now, or 50 years from now, it could use said power against you, your loved ones, your children...whoever those in power in the government see as a problem.
Freedom of Speech, much like the right to bear arms, exists to the benefit of all people, not just right-wingers... :gloom:
So yeah, i'm happy. Especially since it seems like the decisions were made with 8 people on the court, so even weirdo lefty creeps like that walking corpse Ginsberg voted in favor of free speech.
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: 白銀 武 on July 15, 2017, 02:56:59 PM
(https://a.pomf.cat/cqsimq.png)
Should I run for office? I think once our fair president is out of office, a new Trumpian party will emerge. I kinda wanna get in on the ground floor with that and stuff.... haha :yay:
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: Ming on July 15, 2017, 05:37:04 PM
Anyone is better than Zuckerberg
(http://i.imgur.com/ElXKzLy.gif)
Nice stats
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Post by: 白銀 武 on July 19, 2017, 01:57:21 PM
im going to change my political views if its only ming that compliments them
i need more praise
now
Title: Re: political shitposting and things that fall under this category
Post by: ScumbagSoldier on July 19, 2017, 09:58:59 PM
Fascists get out.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Post by: Ming on July 20, 2017, 03:09:39 PM
Fash
Aaaaah-aaah
Savior of the universe
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Post by: 白銀 武 on July 20, 2017, 10:43:08 PM