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[Ming]

Strength is attractive

[McJongJing]

I just realised I'm young enough to be Mings daughters future sugar daddy

[Ming]

Not really, I always self insert as Alice.



And I'm old enough to be the big brother who always beats you up, Jackie boy

 

[Hiro]

theres nothing more annoying than someone who claims to have no friends.  Do you really have no friends?  None at all?  Have you honestly gone without talking to someone other than your family for more than say a year?  Do you really know what thats like?  Because it seems you socialize as much or more than most norms ive met.  yeah, sure, you dont leave your house.  but theres no correlation between being a shut in and having no friends in this day and age.

[McJongJing]

It's not hard Hiro.
Some of us legitimately don't have friends.
I have a few uni clubs I go to, but I wouldn't consider anyone from those friends, since I don't even remember their names or talk to them outside of meetings.
To have friends you have to be able to approach others and have prolonged conversation with them.
People like me and Ming simply can't do that, or are unwilling to.
So yes. Unless you count e-friends some of us really don't have any friends.

Although I feel like I've just been baited or something.
In which case good job Hiro, yah got me!


no matter how much you beat me Ming, it won't unfuck her

[Hiro]

e-friends count

try having no friends at all for about a year then come back to me, -tough guy-

[McJongJing]

Disregard all of that I suck e-friend cocks

[Ming]

Have you honestly gone without talking to someone other than your family for more than say a year?

I have zero friends in real life, and my online relations are just API.

I barely ever say anything to my brother other than hi, and anything I say to my dad is either good morning, thanks for the food, or a comment about the weather. Sometimes he'll start bitching about the government and how they should let him leech more on society but it's not really a conversation and I just try to find and opening to leave without seeming rude.

At work I just act nice but I don't really socialize. I could, if it was people my age. But there's a huge generational gap.

Only once in my 3 years of being a NEET did I actually make a friend, but it only lasted some 3 months.

Before API, I didn't even have any "e-friends". And the only people I would really speak to were government people from the employment office.

I can thrive socially in various situations, but I haven't been in one of those since college.

[Ming]

no matter how much you beat me Ming, it won't unfuck her

Don't insult my unborn child

[McJongJing]

Even finding e-friends can be difficult sometimes.
Steam is full of weirdos, traditional forums are usually shit, and imageboards don't lend themselves well to friend making.
The Last time I had an e-friend outside of api he refused to talk to me after a few weeks.
API truly are my only friends.

no matter how much you beat me Ming, it won't unfuck her

Don't insult my unborn child

She should feel honoured
 

[Hiro]

when you say your friendless but you have e-friends, do you not realize how you are devaluing the friends you have?  Sure, you can be one of those sorry excuses for human that think e-friends are somehow different than real friends.  But if thats your mindset, maybe your the reason you don't feel that you have friends or that you cant get new friends.

[Ming]

I do value e-friends less than irl friends

You wanna fight about it you un-friending monster

[McJongJing]

maybe your the reason you don't feel that you have friends or that you cant get new friends.

I already know that 
I value the friends I have on api, but there's a distinct difference between efriends and real friends.
I can't go to the bar with you guys. We can't sleep over at each others houses and play video games.
We can't go out to get dinner with each other.
There's something missing when you can't see each other in person.

Also people on the internet can put up facades far more easily.

[Hiro]

yeah and you both think somehow in some way people are less than people because they are online.  the reason for your psuedo-loneliness is you and you alone.  You try to rationalize how terrible you are to people online because of some notion that "everyone is like that".  Why not try taking down your guard around people online, you might actually get a friend.  Sure, you'll get annoyed, or hurt, and lose people along the way, but thats what you have to do to make long lasting friendships.

so basically, stop feeling sorry for yourselves and stop putting yourselves in an impenetrable bubble.

You wanna fight about it you un-friending monster

The only time I de-friend is with people who are A) dont really want an actual friendship or B) put up such a defensive stance that its nearly impossible to hang out with them.  My friendship isn't a charity, I befriend people who are fun to socialize with.

[Ming]

I'm not saying e-friends are without worth, but such a friendship does not compare with knowing each other and interacting face to face.

Missing that is what makes you feel lonely. But you'd be even more lonely without any e-friends.

My friendship isn't a charity, I befriend people who are fun to socialize with.

This is fair, can't argue.